Attended a BB study....? - Bluidkiti's Alcohol and Drug Addictions Recovery Help/Support Forums

Larrylive · 12-18-2013, 04:19 PM

I attended a BB study meeting last night, The facilitator informed us the Bill W had his Spiritual Awakening (White Light Version) while under the influence of phenobarbitol. I didn't think it was appropriate.

I believe the program is God based, but was informed that God-substitutes work just as well, ie; doorknobs and 3 toed sloths.

It was also shared that some oldtimers bet on whether a newcomer will make it.

I'm I in the wrong progam?

Regards,

Larry

LookingOut · 12-19-2013, 08:51 AM

My experience is that AA is made up of people and people are fallible. I belonged to a wonderful, women's group in CA, but have not been able to find anything like it in PA. My experience is that the culture is changing and it seems to make it hard for people to understand what "principles before personalities" means any more. I see a lot of personalities and opinions where I am at now.

AA has so much good to offer and so many people get sobriety and recovery there, so I would never disparage it. I just think if one wants to stick with it, one has to search for a group they are compatible with and then needs to take what they need and leave the rest. Sometimes we just have to pray for the one(s) exhibiting too much personality and focus on the good stuff.

I am a Christian and have strong faith and have no problem with the spiritual aspects of AA. However, in my last round of coming off relapse (I am trying to make this one for good!) I have found a great deal of help from SMART recovery. They do not have as many meetings as AA, but they do have a couple online meetings.

The behavioral principles they use have helped me immensely to change my thinking, about beliefs, goals and my drinking.

I need ALL the tools I can get my hands on, so I am quite happy to morph my own program from AA and SMART recovery principles.

That's my experience. Hope it helps! Have a great day!

BW1 · 12-19-2013, 02:00 PM

Thank You Larry and LookingOut

The "blue print" for living is the black print in the book [nothing in the white space LOL].... What is said in meetings is an individual person's ESH [or thier opinion and we all know what opinions are

] and therefore it has been my experience that I get to take what I need and leave the rest at the table's.

It takes what it takes for each person for the spiritual awakening to occur.

12-18-2013, 04:19 PM	#1
Larrylive Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 77	Attended a BB study....? I attended a BB study meeting last night, The facilitator informed us the Bill W had his Spiritual Awakening (White Light Version) while under the influence of phenobarbitol. I didn't think it was appropriate. I believe the program is God based, but was informed that God-substitutes work just as well, ie; doorknobs and 3 toed sloths. It was also shared that some oldtimers bet on whether a newcomer will make it. I'm I in the wrong progam? Regards, Larry __________________ All the gods send their drunks to AA

12-19-2013, 08:51 AM	#2
LookingOut Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Western PA Posts: 1,160	My experience is that AA is made up of people and people are fallible. I belonged to a wonderful, women's group in CA, but have not been able to find anything like it in PA. My experience is that the culture is changing and it seems to make it hard for people to understand what "principles before personalities" means any more. I see a lot of personalities and opinions where I am at now. AA has so much good to offer and so many people get sobriety and recovery there, so I would never disparage it. I just think if one wants to stick with it, one has to search for a group they are compatible with and then needs to take what they need and leave the rest. Sometimes we just have to pray for the one(s) exhibiting too much personality and focus on the good stuff. I am a Christian and have strong faith and have no problem with the spiritual aspects of AA. However, in my last round of coming off relapse (I am trying to make this one for good!) I have found a great deal of help from SMART recovery. They do not have as many meetings as AA, but they do have a couple online meetings. The behavioral principles they use have helped me immensely to change my thinking, about beliefs, goals and my drinking. I need ALL the tools I can get my hands on, so I am quite happy to morph my own program from AA and SMART recovery principles. That's my experience. Hope it helps! Have a great day! __________________ 3/9/2015

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